Saying dates / years [AE vs BE] (2025)

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lewoz

Senior Member

France/French West Indies

French - Creole

  • Jun 9, 2022
  • #1

Hello, I'm trying to figure out the difference in the reading of years between British and American English.
Is my grasp of it correct?

2001: twenty oh one OR two thousand one (US); two thousand and one (UK)
2019: twenty nineteen (US); two thousand and nineteen (UK), and I guess the same goes for 2010.

Thanks for your help.

  • Loob

    Senior Member

    English UK

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #2

    We also say twenty nineteen etc in BrESaying dates / years [AE vs BE] (2).

    If you put saying years into the Dictionary and thread title search box at the top of the page, you'll find several earlier threads. Here's one: Saying years - how to speak, pronounce, year numbers ... 2020, 2090

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #3

    There are several different ways of reading years, especially those of the current century. Most are common to both BrE and AmE.

    One key difference, though, is the inclusion or non-inclusion of the 'and' in the middle. While all speakers might refer to the year 2019 as twenty nineteen, there is a difference when we use the two thousand... option. Most BrE speakers using this option would probably say two thousand and nineteen, while an AmE speaker would omit the 'and' and say two thousand nineteen.

    Uncle Jack

    Senior Member

    Cumbria, UK

    British English

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #4

    Wordy McWordface said:

    Most BrE speakers using this option would probably say two thousand and nineteen

    Except we probably wouldn't. In the late twentieth century, we were very unsure about what to call the years of the twenty-first century, and we still haven't decided on a single standard pronunciation of the years 2001-2009, but we have now pretty much settled on "twenty whatever" for 2010 onwards.

    A speaker of 2006 might well have said "two thousand and nineteen", but I would be rather surprised to hear it spoken like this in 2022.

    Chasint

    Senior Member

    English - England

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #5

    Uncle Jack said:

    ...
    A speaker of 2006 might well have said "two thousand and nineteen", but I would be rather surprised to hear it spoken like this in 2022.

    But what would you now say for 2006?

    rhitagawr

    Senior Member

    Wales

    British English

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #6

    I don't know about AE, but here's a BE point point of view.
    It's normally Twenty oh one, twenty nineteen, nineteen forty-seven, ten sixty-six, nine fifty-seven.
    Two thousand and nineteen, nineteen hundred and forty-seven, one thousand and sixty-six,
    and nine hundred and fifty-seven would be correct but formal. Stanley Kubrick's film is Two thousand and one: A Space Odyssey.

    Cross-posted.
    I'd say twenty oh six. Two thousand and six would be correct.

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    Uncle Jack

    Senior Member

    Cumbria, UK

    British English

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #7

    Chasint said:

    But what would you now say for 2006?

    I would say "twenty oh six", but this is far from universal, which is why I added the bit about the years 2001-2009.

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #8

    In fact, I do still say two thousand and nineteen.
    Yes, I know. Four words instead of two. Maybe I'm just living up to my username...........

    elroy

    Moderator: EHL, Arabic, Hebrew, German(-Spanish)

    Chicago, IL

    US English, Palestinian Arabic bilingual

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #9

    lewoz said:

    twenty oh one

    I’ve never heard this. I’ve only ever heard/used “twenty X” starting with 2010.

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #10

    elroy said:

    I’ve never heard this. I’ve only ever heard/used “twenty X” starting with 2010.

    I don't think I've heard twenty oh one, either.

    For the years of the first decade of this century, we tend to say two thousand and one, two thousand and two and so on. Did AmE speakers also omit the 'and' with those years (two thousand one)?

    We do use the oh formula for previous centuries, though - 1901 is nineteen oh one, for example.

    elroy

    Moderator: EHL, Arabic, Hebrew, German(-Spanish)

    Chicago, IL

    US English, Palestinian Arabic bilingual

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #11

    Wordy McWordface said:

    Did AmE speakers also omit the 'and' with those years (two thousand one)?

    Yes, did and do, when we refer to those years.

    Wordy McWordface said:

    We do use the oh formula for previous centuries, though - 1901 is nineteen oh one, for example.

    Same.

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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #12

    Thanks a lot for your help. But would you say,
    1901: nineteen hundred (and) one?
    Thanks

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #13

    That's possible, but less common. This use of 'hundred' has a rather old-fashioned sound to it. In everyday conversation, it's nearly always nineteen oh one, eighteen oh five and so on.

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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #14

    Thanks a lot! Saying dates / years [AE vs BE] (13)

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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #15

    How about 1001: one thousand (and) one?
    I would rather say ten oh one.
    But is it possible? Thanks

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #16

    lewoz said:

    How about 1001: one thousand (and) one?

    It doesn't sound much like a year. (sounds more like carpet shampoo...)

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    lewoz said:

    I would rather say ten oh one.

    So would I.

    lewoz said:

    But is it possible? Thanks

    Technically possible, but very odd. Years in that century are always ten... something.

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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #17

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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #18

    I also read somewhere,
    2002: two thousand oh two
    It also sounds weird, but I don't know whether it is okay.

    elroy

    Moderator: EHL, Arabic, Hebrew, German(-Spanish)

    Chicago, IL

    US English, Palestinian Arabic bilingual

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #19

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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #20

    Thanks.
    But in the UK, would people say,
    2022: two thousand and two, OR twenty twenty-two?
    Last question, I promise... Saying dates / years [AE vs BE] (18)

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #21

    lewoz said:

    Thanks.
    But in the UK, would people say,
    2022: two thousand and two, OR twenty twenty-two?
    Last question, I promise... Saying dates / years [AE vs BE] (20)

    What year are you asking about? 2002 or 2022?

    heypresto

    Senior Member

    South East England

    English - England

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #22

    lewoz said:

    Thanks.
    But in the UK, would people say,
    2022: two thousand and two, OR twenty twenty-two?
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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #23

    Sorry, there was a typo in my writing. I meant,
    2022: two thousand AND twenty-two, OR twenty twenty-two ?? What is more common in the UK?
    But you already answered -thank you-, even if I don't get whether you can say,
    2018: two thousand AND eighteen, and not 2022: two thousand AND twenty-two

    Roxxxannne

    Senior Member

    American English (New England and NYC)

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #24

    This is how I say years (AmE):
    409 = four oh nine
    1054 = ten fifty-four
    1453 = fourteen fifty-three
    1901 = nineteen oh one
    1914 - nineteen fourteen
    2001 = two thousand one
    2020 = twenty twenty

    heypresto

    Senior Member

    South East England

    English - England

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #25

    In BE, we'd say the same for all those except for 2001, where we would say 'two thousand and one.'

    Oh, and we might say 'Four hundred and nine.' It's not a year we are very likely to talk about, so I can't be 100% certain.

    pimlicodude

    Banned

    British English

    • Jun 9, 2022
    • #26

    Wordy McWordface said:

    Most BrE speakers using this option would probably say two thousand and nineteen, while an AmE speaker would omit the 'and' and say two thousand nineteen.

    It's worth adding that the "and" is very fleeting, just a syllabic N really. As people have said 2019 is not read out as "the year of our Lord two thousand and nineteen"; it is just 20-19. But if you had a number -not a date - 2019, it would be "two thousand 'n nineteen people turned up" (or whatever). The 'n is hard to hear, but it is in there.

    kentix

    Senior Member

    English - U.S.

    • Jun 10, 2022
    • #27

    There are so many contexts - time, money, things - and sentences, that I think most people use a variety, and might not even be aware of how much variety they use. I can think of times that I would say all these forms.

    I could call the year 409 as:

    Four oh nine
    Four hundred nine
    Four hundred and nine

    It would be inaccurate to say I only use one way.

    I regularly use both twenty-nineteen and two thousand nineteen. It just depends. I might also use two thousand and nineteen (but less frequently).

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    lewoz

    Senior Member

    France/French West Indies

    French - Creole

    • Jun 10, 2022
    • #28

    A big thank you to all of you. Have a nice day.

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